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Hestia’s New World

 

 

2022 note: One seemingly likely role that Hestia played in bronze age Aegean home culture is as the trusted maid who tended the perpetual flame in the low central hearth of the ancient Aegean home. That is speculation based partly on the depictions of the Hestia as a God, looking like a mature maid, not at all like the dramatic ego personalities of the later Greek pantheon. It also seems to connect with the current Greek name for that central hearth of the home as “the Hestia,” and her reputedly being “the first of the gods” to which honor is due, and “guardian of the sacred flame of hearth and home.”

2021 note: Hestia and Hermes appear to have been the first of the Greek gods, representing the universal natural meaning of "home" (place of the sacred flame) and "connections" (roles in the wider world). As such, Hestia and Hermes, appearing to have originally represented "ecological physics principles" of “centers” and “connections” around which Bronze Age Aegean culture developed. They are archeologically marked and linked to the sophisticated architecture of the Aegean "hearth home" with its perpetual flame in the center of the family commons, tended by Hestia.  If verified, this would be an earth-shaking discovery. It would explain why Hermes and Hestia are so different in kind from the later Greek Gods and exposing a lost first 2000 years or more of Greek science, later repressed as "nature religion" by the rise of the abstract Greek science that later dominated. Below are early notes on it. 

Pat Thompson, (see links at the bottom) Lehman College Distinguished Professor in Women's Studies, was the Accidental Theorist and American daughter of Russia's "loved poet of the revolution," Vladimir Mayakovsky. She developed the method of prior cultures by deconstructing revisionist texts by later cultures that led to the careful archeological exploration of the history of the proto-Greek hearth home architecture that ties together the thread...!  Jessie

 

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Hestia's New World - community

Hestian archetypes of home, cultures, history A Research Community with a Google Forum. 

Hestia's New World concerns the intersection of 3000 years of dominant patriarchal cultures, and the new insights on how that happened and why that won't work. It subjugates the home centered cultural foundations of mankind, for unsustainable commercial interests. It's a mistake of "Hermian" patriarchal culture being based on "living by abstractions" that neglect the needs of life.

What more truly seems to define a "home" is the care of the living culture within it, not rules. The home is not a machine, but "a commons in which a living culture makes its own space". As that's what people live *for*, the first principle of sustainability is the protection of its "Sacred fire and hearth", the archetype of the Greek's first socially involved god, Zuse's older sister - Hestia -.

The "home" then is defined ecologically in Thompson's Hestian Trilogy, as it also is in Henshaw Natural Systems Theory as well. It's the "near environments" that a living culture adapts to its own use, where "it makes its home"; the "niche" it organizes as its private world for itself. The home serves as a secure “commons” for the living culture of the home, that it uses as its interface and to mediate connections with "distant environments", serving as *both* its "hive" of activity *and* as it's "hub" for connecting with its environments.

A.   Images of Hestia, the first of the Greek Gods

B.   Discussion

1. Friends were visiting Crete to be marries this week

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… after going to Greece, in part looking for a place for their marriage, so I gladly sent them this!... 

If looking for a spot,... ;-)  how about a sacred early acropolis in Crete, like Prinias, where the form of early Greek temples may have emerged.

2. This is a real find. – leading to a likely important short (1570 word) essay.

It's a new way to look at the whole cultural and architectural history surrounding the ancient bronze age Aegean hearth and home culture. It appears to be both the origin of many of the family traditions of home centered societies and architecture as a fine art.

The long enduring ancient Aegean home culture would have been origin of Hestia's role in mythology, as "guardian of hearth and home" and as the first of the gods in the proto-Greek pantheon, and why her humble depiction and role in ancient Greek religion are so very different from other power-personalities of the Greek gods. The building form of homes designed to be centered on a great hearth is what is easiest to document. Even in its oldest versions it displays the enduring high art and idealism for which high classical Greek architecture is known... with a 2500 year cultural tradition of design.

Being a rather scientific design for serving a culture centered on maintaining a perpetual flame and way of life around a literal family circle, also displayed artfully placed columns to solve all the building problems of living around a round hearth at the center.  It's the fitting of all those patterns that in the end is most persuasive. That culture's way of living is not well documented, only clearly implied, as what would require the large round hearth (big round) as the focal point of its social life and the unnecessarily expensive architecture required to have a large room for equitable gatherings around an open hearth. It's a very unusual scientific design for living not found anywhere else in the ancient world, evidence of a culture that would be so long enduring and produce such beautiful art all along too.

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Architecturally that building form required a wide space, and having only relatively short trees... required columns in the middle of the space to support the long roof spans, and allow a vent for the low fire maintained at the center. The entrance to the Aegean hearth home still remained in the center, so the entrance was on the same line as the central columns, also prominently in the middle. That's the unusual geometry that also characterizes classical Greek architecture, the big round hearth at the center of the room and columns in the middle of the room to allow the hearth to be at the center of a large meeting room, the family center when a family home, a village center when a village center, a government center or spiritual temple when a great cultural center. It's a form of domestic home design seemingly only found in Bronze Age Aegean culture, but may be repeated only for the temples of some other cultures.  

That wide room, housing a perpetual low flame to gather around. created an iconic ceremonial building type. We now find the culture that invented it in our own traditions of hearth and home.  The architecture of great columns at the entrance was co-opted, however, to symbolize the centers of wealth and power,... That original symbolism for housing "great treasure", celebrating the treasures of home and equitable living, was reversed in meaning.  It came to symbolize and celebrate ever growing inequities through centrally controlled wealth and power.  

You see it in the familiar modern iconography of Modern Classical Greek architecture, at the entrances of banks and governments, as centers of wealth and  power. The earliest examples of the Aegean hearth home were found  at the lowest level layers of the excavation of ancient Troy, seeming to represent a common family and public regional culture centered on the Aegean sea, at the dawn of the Bronze Age~3300BC.

The design displays a peculiarly refined and democratic features for settled living, stone houses with indoor hearths at the center, for maintaining perpetual flames and to gather around.  Dinsmoor notes that the form disappeared to reemerge again after invasion multiple times, and their traditions of hearth and home being the root of the traditions of modern Europe and the West.  The architecture provided the model for Minoan and Mycenaean public space designs as great egalitarian meeting spaces, as well as inspiring the Classical Greek architecture and the design of public halls that became the centers of Greek democracy.

The authoritarian cultures of the Mediterranean to follow also use the same architectural forms for their high temples, for symbolizing the supremacy of their power and laws, in endless conflict with the home cultures that continued to spread using the egalitarian principles that remain the foundation of civilization.

There's a very curious break in the historical record I may have found the true secret of. That is the curious absence of written GREEK history for the "hearth home" building form. They are occasionally mentioned by Homer, translated to English and called "Megarons" as if only referring to the monumental forms, with no hint at all of where this mysteriously complex and perfected design came from. So it's been something of a mystery to architects who perceive the uniquely complex perfection of the building type, and wanted to know what culture it really came came from to make sense of modern architectural history.

Why the architectural history doesn't address the very long heritage and archaeology of the ancient family and community home design is the puzzle. Homer wrote before modern Greek developed, and the way he was translated into English seems to have used English pronunciation, with translators preferring the hard 'g' sound when the actual Greek pronunciation, still today, would have been with a soft 'g'. I wondered if said with a soft 'g' the word might refer to the big round hearth that defines it, and felt a similarity between the hard sound of "megaron" had some hint of "big round" as "mega-round", and then checked the modern Greek.

Sure enough the modern pronunciation refers has those sounds, "mega" and "giro" but with a soft 'g' or 'y'. Checking if the Greek word for 'round' would fit turned up "gyro" as the root term corresponding to the Greek 'round'. I think it implies that the natural Greek meaning for what Homer referred to (if said with the soft 'g') was indeed naming the building type for the great hearth at its center. You can interpret the linguistic evidence yourself, using Google Translate, English to Greek, and comparing the pronunciation for the two names for the same thing, to see if the ancient Greek word should have been translated "megyro" not "megaron".

https://translate.google.com/?hl=en#en/el/megaron

I think it's really an unavoidable conclusion when you get all the pieces together and see the images of how the humble very scientific hearth-home building form survived for thousands of years to then be found in the centers of Minoan, Mycenaean and Greek high cultures. It was then imitated as formal design by others too, including us, but without the original centering on a strong family circle, which for modern home design still serves but in much more varied informal ways.

That correction of the mistaken translation of the proto-Greek, to use a soft 'g' rather than an hard one... connects the historical references to the unusually enduring. now ~5000 year old, Aegean cultural tradition of building homes centered on a great low hearth for long meetings of a family circle as the common link. That begins the story into the historical era, and with both Greek architecture and democracy arising from the same enduring family circle and architectural design tradition. Dozens of variations on the same 'megyro' style public buildings surrounded the public space of the Athens Agora, displaying the even more ancient building designs for family meeting, as the origin of Greek democracy too. As elsewhere in the ancient world, it seems the emergence of high traditions of societal organization were then no match at all for the forces unleashed when that high degree of organization enabled the accumulation of great wealth, and the great battles over it... the prosperity leading to self-destructive authoritarian rule, breaking the magic spell and falling apart.

Sorry..., this is informal archaeology, the author's way of putting together a provocative story, however well founded. It's based on my long experience as an architect and understanding of how building forms serve common cultures, combined with my diverse studies in general systems ecology. I drew it from widely browsing the evolving building forms that emerged in the 3000 years of Aegean, Minoan, Mycenaean as well as classical Greek cultures, reading Dinsmoor's Architecture of Ancient Greece and Burkert's "Greek Religion", Renfrew's "Archeology of Language". Other hints on the cultural transitions involved came from Tainter's & Diamond's work on the collapse of complex societies, coupled with the serious feminist historians studying the rise of domineering authoritarian cultures (which then fail), and learning to "deconstruct the revisionist histories" reading Pat Thompson, Eisler, Songe-Moller and others. Fischer's decoding of early Minoan scripts, and readings on how modern Greek language developed from the Minoan scripts was important for understanding why the use of written language for descriptive records or story telling seemed to be such a delayed invention. It's then from a "pattern language" view of all those "forces at play" and spying some of the "simplifying relationships resolving them all together" that I put my descriptive picture from. I think the general picture is solidly based, though there's tremendous room for filling in the details, and reinterpretation, as well as tying it in with other old world cultures and traditions.

3. The group has been quiescent for a while.

I'm most interested in the origins of the archetypes for Hestia and Hermes, and the relevance of the various roles for "attending to home" and "attending to travel", they seem to originate from, and how they changed in history.   Those are relevant to me both socially and scientifically as among the deepest of natural polarities and principles of organization in life.    

4. Perhaps the Minoan culture had the balance right between wealth and relationships

To introduce my recent excitement with finding how very closely Pat Thompson's Hestian language fits with my Natural Systems language.  In addition to the home of a living system being the niche that it makes for itself, it's that the archetypal role of Hestia, as "guardian of the sacred flame of hearth and home" corresponds directly to the "continuity of living organization" that I trace with my natural science of self-organizing systems.

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9/8/13    Helene,

I think you are right on track here.  Though the Latin is beautiful I think common English is actually more clear.   Isn’t the idea of “res nullius” already a conceptual enclosure of the commons, reflecting the Hermian revision of the language, and making all of nature subject to human control??   

The meaning given in the Wictionary appendix of Latin phrases  states “res nullius” as meaning:

“Goods without an owner. Used for things or beings which belong to nobody and are up for grabs, e.g., uninhabited and uncolonized lands, wandering wild animals, etc. (cf. terra nullius, "no man's land").”

- http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:List_of_Latin_phrases_(P%E2%80%93Z)#R

I really like Pat Thompson’s way of deconstructing Latin using that Hestian/Hermian dichotomy (and also her Systems Thinking approach).    The Latin reflects the Roman culture’s mental reduction of all things to their use value to humans, and in doing so erases the working relationships owned by nature from the meaning of “all that is not owned” (or not yet conceptualized I guess) by humans!    

- http://synapse9.com/HestiaRef/AccidentalTheorist-Ch9,10text.pdf

http://synapse9.com/HestiaRef/LifePlans-Ch14SystemsThinking.pdf

For the Hestian way of expressing it turn to the far richer meaning of the common words of English.   In English gives you the symmetry of terms “internal” and “external” for any given system, whether that system is of ownership, energy use or a community, etc., as the most general case.   What it boils down to from the Hestian view is the distinction between “home” and “wilderness”, though, as what “internal” actually means in almost any context is “home to something”.   Isn’t that a nice way of putting it?  :-)    

As to where to start this discussion, it’s possible that my having (without discussion) reversed Lisinka’s statement in the draft letter “As nature, herself is of course not ‘a commons’ ”, may have been one of the irritants causing the recent exchange.    Is there a way to resolve that?  

Is there some important distinction lost if we consider “the wilderness” or “nature as a whole” to be “a commons”?   From human perspective it might have unknown bounds and unknown organization perhaps.    I was thinking the all that would be lost is the image of nature as a picturesque image, and what would be gained is Gaia as a working system of partnerships, the organism underlying our picturesque images of nature.

Jessie

C.   Beginnings and purposes

1. Personally, I feel extremely fortunate…

… to have gotten a chance to spend a good bit of time with Pat Thompson last summer and fall.   I’m actually a physicist and architect, who has spent decades studying the dynamic evolution of natural systems.   I found Pat's understanding of natural systems, seen through a Hestian lens, to be particularly fresh and insightful.  

We both see the initial paradigm of natural organization is “home”, a domain of self-organization within a protected space, for sustaining its "sacred flame”.  It does that, of course, partly by also creating an external space of intimate mirror relationships in its near environment, or a 'niche".    So, we see Hestia and Hermes as truly eternal archetypes of natural order.

I also found our reasons for studying it unexpectedly close too.  The natural systems view helps a lot in retracing the ancient evolution of human cultures from reflecting the natural archetypes of “home  and its communications” (Hestia and Hermes), to become dominated today by the conceptual archetypes of modern man, “business and power” (rules and rulers).  More familiar is to describe that shift as the rise of male dominated hierarchy an marginalization of the feminine, as part of human societies becoming disruptive rather than holistic and losing touch with their own real interests.    

 

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I think she and I made a lot of progress, in case you know of anyone who studies and likes to talk about such things.   One of my discoveries since I last talked with her last fall is the apparent Minoan origin of Hestia, at least 1000 years before the early Greek legends.   The great ceremonial hearth that Hestia is known to be the guardian of, as the center of the classic Greek temples called “Megarons”, and at the center of Greek households and called the “navel of the earth”… appears to have first appeared as the design of the great “live-in kitchens” of ancient Minoan homes.    

The likely original use of that now very curiously symbolic hearth, seems unavoidably for a family to sit around, as it’s communal ‘family circle’, taking the time around the fire to eat and kindle the “sacred flame” of their family unity (or so this girl imagines…).   To help people of today to think about and try to understand how all these lost ways of living could have fit together, I include some photos of Minoan culture reconstructions.    

The story goes on from there, how the Minoan culture was probably the model of the myths of Atlantis, so remarkably communal, rich, artistic and literary, it still serves as a lost ideal of how man could live.  It was also indeed literally drowned by a great tidal wave from a nearby volcano, Thera, in 1600 BCE, and all its ships and coastal development sunk into the sea.    

Who knows, though, whether Minoan culture would have survived its own achievements.   It was in fact terribly threatened by its own success, just as we are today so threatened by our success being the direct cause our own environmental demise!!   There’s evidence in the Fischer translation of the “Phaistos” disk that the real demise of Minoan culture may have been its wealth, and not the volcano.

Though the waves surely erased most of the evidence, the disk provides a report on the life of the island being threatened by  pirates and desperate to build defenses, seemingly after it was too late…    

I think this is just a wonderful way to open up whole story of what is happening to us, right now too.

2. Subjects

If a "home" is the place a living culture makes for itself, and Hestia is the archetype Guardian of the Sacred Fire of Hearth and Home (keeping "the home fires burning" in modern phrasing).   "Homemaking" must be about "making homes" in that Hestian sense, the true meaning totally different from the one assigned to it, close to: "chores of the home servant", from the dominant Roman male,  "Hermian," culture of control (rather than nurture) we still live with in large part today.  

So "home-making" becomes "devotion to nurturing and protecting the "sacred flame" of the living culture of the home, living and passing on its deep family traditions and knowledge of life.    Which... really does FIT much better what the actual job of home-making DOES, and always did.  It just stopped being recognized as an archetypal role in society, originally, the principal archetypal role.

II.        References

General References

Commons Movement  -- cultures making living homes

Christopher Alexander -- Pattern Language of public commons

Louis Kahn – the ideal of "a room" as the service and expression of architecture

Jessie’s Hestia References

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Hestia’s New World (Inactive email group)

https://groups.google.com/g/HestianWorld

 

Google search

Hestia search on Google

 

Mentions in RNS

Hestia Mentions in Reading Nature’s Signals

 

 

 

 

 

Pat Thompson – (Yelena Mayakovskaya) – Writing & Link

 

Pat Thompson

 Google Search

https://www.google.com/search?q=yelena+vladimirovna+mayakovskaya 

 

 

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Accidental Theorist Ch9,10 - excerpt

https://synapse9.com/HestiaRef/AccidentalTheorist-Ch9,10text.pdf

 

Accidental Theorist Diagrams- excerpt

https://synapse9.com/HestiaRef/AccidentalTheorist-HH_SystemDiagrams.pdf

 

Yelena Vladimirovna Mayakovskaya

Accidental Theorist Prologue- excerpt

https://synapse9.com/HestiaRef/AccidentalTheorist-Intro&Prologue.pdf

 

 

Fatal Abstraction- excerpt

https://synapse9.com/HestiaRef/FatalAbstr-p85.pdf

 

 

In bed with Procrustes- excerpt

https://synapse9.com/HestiaRef/InBedWithProcrustes-Intro&Prologue.pdf

 

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